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OK, to understand just how important this feature is, I’ve modified this topic to add a poll. Have at it.
check out this project for a working example of Tapestry/Spring/Hibernate with source code
https://betterpetshop.dev.java.net/Sorry I didn’t chime in sooner! I didn’t know this topic had been joined. Plus I’m so busy converting everything I have to Tapestry, I’ve been too wrapped up to follow forums for a while.
I use spindle and find it to be a very valuable tool for producing Tapestry applications, but it’s merely a start. Basically Spindle is a HTML/XML code-assist tool and Tapestry validator. It speeds up development tremendously, but I think there could be much more.
With all the graphical editor support you folks have been adding lately it would be wonderful to see a more GUI-like tool produced for Tapestry. Also, there’s a new property editor Eclipse plugin out there called the Tapestry Palette that would be a nice touch as well.
So, the short answer is, yes! Start with Spindle, but then continue on innovating with some of the other great ideas you’ve had with Struts. Tapestry is gaining momentum. With the right tool support, it could be the next Hibernate.
cardsharp,
In your experience, when you run those 2 plugins together with MyEclipse, does everything play nicely together or are there issues?In my experience (almost a year with both) I haven’t seen any issues running both MyEclipse and Spindle together.
When working with both my only wish is that I could use MyEclipse’s fantastic HTML editor instead of Spindle’s. Spindle’s HTML editor doesn’t hold a candle to MyEclipse, but I usually use Spindle’s editor anyway because that’s where the taptestry support is!
I find the combo of MyEclipse + Spindle to be an invaluable tool when building Tapestry applications.
Ohh I see, so Spindle’s HTML editor gives you autocomplete and such for Tapestry-specific things, and that’s it?
So if MyEclipse were to ship ‘Tapestry’ support, a first pass of simlpy integrating Spindle would be a good start?
Yes, Spindle simply provides an HTML editor that has auto-complete for the attributes that Tapestry uses in an HTML template. It also provides an xml-style editor with auto-complete for editing .page and .jwc files, which are page and component specification files. It also validates the whole thing to make sure all your code is correct. For example, it validates component tags to make sure that a) the component exists, and b) the required attributes are set.
Yes, if MyEclipse integrated Spindle, it would be a very good start. Tapestry has a very active email mailing list that would be very interested to hear about something like that.
If MyEclipse supported Tapestry, it is very likely I would become a MyEclipse customer. I use Tapestry exclusively from my Java web development.
FYI – I’m a Tapestry committer and creator of the SiteMesh Tapestry decorator.
Erik,
We really want to help out in this area, management is throwing around some ideas now, don’t know if they will make it into 3.9 or not but we do want to add Tapestry to our web coverage along side Struts, JSF, etc.Thank you guys for the interest in it, that is ultimately what fuels the decision to support A over B.
We don’t think the JSF/JSP provides a viable choice right now, so tapestry is what we use for our Java projects that require some kind of component framework at the moment. Nevertheless, installing spindle and tapestry palette yourself is in itself only a matter of seconds, using their eclipse update sites.
We don’t think the JSF/JSP provides a viable choice right now,
JSF is still so young… it has potential, but really can be frustrating at times…
