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I used to subscribe to MyEclipseIDE when I was doing J2EE development and it was very easily worth the price. But I’m now doing just core Java stuff and am debating whether to use Netbeans for the GUI stuff or get MyEclipseIDE for Matisse. My concern in getting MyEclipseIDE is that I don’t want the whole J2EE stuff. It will unnecessarily slow down Eclipse by loading a lot of plugins. Also paying $50 just to use Matisse seems a bit steep. Especially given that I don’t use GUI builders that often. So I was wondering if you guys would consider selling just Matisse for Eclipse? I’d imagine there must be plenty of people like me who may be interested in that.
Milind,
I certainly understand why you’d like “just Matisse”, but unfortunately that’s not currently possible. Our implementation of Matisse4MyEclipse depends on quite a bit of our frameworks and infrastructure in the rest of MyEclipse so separating it out isn’t possible at this point. While the product team might decide on different packaging going forward, that doesn’t really help you right now.
However, if you install MyEclipse and then Matisse you can easily turn off the features you don’t want to use through the Capabilities interface at Window > Preferences > General > Capabilities. Once the unused capbilities are disabled, they won’t have any time or memory requirements within the IDE so that should eliminate that particular concern. In the end, the only remaining question will be is the $50 worth it for convenience of having Matisse within your primary IDE. And how about other content editors, like XML, HTML, etc? Image / icon editing all built-in? Database tools? UML? Even without doing J2EE work, there are a ton of features in MyEclipse that should easily make the $50 justifiable, IMO anyway. 🙂
Thanks for the info. I hope you can find some way to package it differently. There would surely be more people like me. As far as the other tools are concerned, I don’t like to use everything as an Eclipse plugin. For XML, I use XMPSpy. For Databases, I use DbVisualizer. The only thing I could use would be UML.
For now, I’ll just use Netbeans. I’m already using it mobile development. So… I haven’t used Netbeans for JEE since I haven’t done much of that for the last 2 years, but it’s starting to look good. For core Java, Eclipse is fantastic. But Netbeans is beginning to impress as well.
When I get a chance, I’ll check out the UML support in MyEclipse. Thanks for a fantastic product. Just the hot deployment of web apps in Tomcat was worth the cost of MyEclipse when I was using it. Good to know, I can disable parts of it and not pay the penalty. Maybe you can figure out a way to disable the rest of the features and make only Matisse work.
Anyway, hope you guys figure out a way to give the Swing Gui guys like me “Matisse” on Eclipse.
