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I really liked MyEclipse 6 because I could simply copy/paste my installation to all our other developers. This great feature was gone with the introduction of Pulse, which I learned to hate very early during migration to higher MyEclipse versions (separate Genuitec folder and what not).
Please bring back the copy/paste feature for installing MyEclipse. I’d like to setup my version inculding e. g. subclipse, the c++ development tools, etc and then copy/paste it to all our other developers. And when they start the new version everything should work as it does on my system.
And it would be great if there were no installer for MyEclipse. Just simply unzip a file to a folder, launch the program and be done with it. No wizard, no folders that are spread on various drives, nothing. Hard disk space isn’t a problem anymore these days. Just put it all in a package and that’s it.
Thank you very much for the consideration.
Lofi,
With MyEclipse 2013 and above, we have moved away from the Pulse style of installation. All our installers lay down self contained versions of MyEclipse, everything you need is within a single MyEclipse folder, nothing that would reuse a Common area, for instance.
There is also a silent mode of installation which would allow you to run an install without having to go through the GUI if that helps..
While I would not recommend it, you should be able to zip up the installed directory (after running a single EXE installer) and share it, obviously, shortcuts would not work.
We have also offered the archived update site (and regular update sites) which you can use to install MyEclipse into whatever version of Eclipse you desire, though the end result would be similar to using the EXE installer itself.
Given the light of what you ultimately desire, I believe these options should be sufficient. Thoughts?
Thank you Brian. I’d have to try. The first thing that comes to my mind: How is it with the plugins? Subclipse, C++ Development, etc.
eg Subclipse 1.6.x has always been a huge pain. I don’t know why, but I never got the online installer to work properly. The only way the subclipse plugin works with all dependencies is to download the subclipse zip file, extract it to a local folder and install from there. Then it works without problems.
That’s why I have the preference to install MyEclipse and all plugins on one machine and copy/paste to the others. Less work. And when an installation “breaks” for whatever reason, we can easily replace it.
I noticed that the whole installation goes into 1 folder with MyEclipse 2014. But I didn’t try copy/pasting so far. I didn’t expect it to work. So thanks for the info.
Lofi,
Well, installing from the marketplace should work smoothly, with the installed components being placed within the plugins and features folders too.Even if you do an unzip into these folders locally, it should function fine. As always, the dropins folder is also present.
How big is your team? I understand that you disliked Pulse but our new product, Secure Delivery Center is significantly better on all fronts and would give you exactly the sort of control you seem to need. Do give it a look: http://genuitec.com/sdc I can set you up with a free trial if you’d like one.
Hello Brian, thank you for the information.
My team size is around 10 people. To be frank, I don’t “dislike” Pulse, I hate it. When it was introduced, the first thing that came to my mind is why you guys split the installation between multiple folders. That was beyond my understanding. We have multiple versions of MyEclipse in use. It’s the typical scenario where e. g. every company thinks that their program is the only one on a system and it doesn’t matter if we spread over the entire file system. Well, it does. I rather prefer to have everything in 1 folder. I also don’t understand why people still use the concept of a “common” folder. Hard disk space isn’t an issue anymore these days and it wasn’t years ago.
I like Java. You unzip it to some folder, start it and it works. You can even have multiple versions in parallel folders, they don’t conflict.
Thank you for the SDC invitation, but I’m not a fan of clouds. You depend on a service of another company. You don’t know what happens with your intellectual property in a cloud. If the service fails the entire team stands still. And if I set up a private cloud, I’ll get a maintenance nightmare. I’m rather eager to see the new MyEclipse 😉
You see, I like simplicity. Unzip a package of a program, put optional plugins into a plugins folder, execute the executable and be done with it. I know it’s easier said than done, but that’s my preference 🙂
