[alexander malic]

hi all,

here’s the link of the official announcement
http://www.eclipse.org/webtools/index.html

greets
alexander malic

[Riyad Kalla]

Very cool, thx for the link.

[Ivar Vasara]

Given the year long discussion on getting things started, I’d seriously question if they’ll have anything usable by 2010.
..Or, to be fair, may that was the just the bureaucratic tape slowing down an elite team of ninja coders who have been working in secret for the past 18 months !

[Scott Anderson]

I have it on good authority that no ninjas were working on it. 🙂

Just remember that just in case, as a fluke, something useful does emerge, we’ll be productizing, integrating, and shipping it with our team of ninjas very quickly. 😉

[Riyad Kalla]

Management got us all pairs of ninja hoods and plastic swords, so we are very ‘into’ the ninja theme now.

[snpe]

There is initial contributions (wtp and lomboz) now
It is cool : jsp 2.0, outline, refactoring
xml outline, xml catalog, dtd and xml schema use
format xml and jsp
database explorer
….

download is > 50mb

regards

[Riyad Kalla]

Don’t worry, we already started banging on it 😉

[Phillip Beauvoir]

Lomboz contributions!!!???? 😯

PB

[Scott Anderson]

Fear not. We’ve already seen them and decided they “weren’t for us”. The IBM contributions look interesting to us, however. You guys can sit back, relax, and wait for us to integrate the juicy bits for you and deliver it with a nice bow on it. Afterall, that’s why you paid us the $30, right? We’re out there doing the “dirty work”. 🙂

[Phillip Beauvoir]

Phew….nice one…

Keep it up, and you’ll get another $30 (or whatever it is by then) from me when my sub runs out.

8)

PB

[Nabil Suleiman]

@support-scott wrote:

Fear not. We’ve already seen them and decided they “weren’t for us”. The IBM contributions look interesting to us, however. You guys can sit back, relax, and wait for us to integrate the juicy bits for you and deliver it with a nice bow on it. Afterall, that’s why you paid us the $30, right? We’re out there doing the “dirty work”. 🙂

The best 30 bucks I’ve ever spent. seriously.

[Scott Anderson]

Nabil,

The best 30 bucks I’ve ever spent. seriously.

Thanks! By the way, I dropped by the iraqilinux.org site recently — it looks like you’ve been quite busy. And, thanks for deciding on English over Arabic. 😉

[alexander malic]

@support-scott wrote:

Fear not. We’ve already seen them and decided they “weren’t for us”. The IBM contributions look interesting to us, however. You guys can sit back, relax, and wait for us to integrate the juicy bits for you and deliver it with a nice bow on it. Afterall, that’s why you paid us the $30, right? We’re out there doing the “dirty work”. 🙂

for all the people thinking that webtools can replace the “enterprise workbench”:
i was some weeks ago on the eclipse-conference in heidelberg/germany. there was also some guy from the webtools-project. and he said that they are not delivering all the tools. they just want to make something like a sdk, platform for standardisation and a more easy creation of tools for j2ee/web-development.

and i also think that “Enterprise Workbench” is the best integrated j2ee/webtools-project. it will always be some steps ahead to the others.

keep on rockin guys.
some things i am missing is (more tutorials, more documetation)
support is great.

[Scott Anderson]

Alexander,

Thank you *very* much for the kind words and the vote of confidence. Some may not know it, but Genuitec is helping drive some of the standardization efforts in web tools, particularly around the project structures and their flexibility. We’ve been listening to all of you for the past year and know that a flexible standard in that area is critical for adoption of any new tool since you’ve already got source layouts set in your version control systems. Think of us as *your* representatives.

some things i am missing is (more tutorials, more documetation)

I’ve been told that this will *finally* be addressed for 3.9. We’ve now come to realize that many more people would probably use our tools if they could only figure out how much they do. 😉

support is great.

Naturally, I’ll forward this to our boss. 🙂

[snpe]

The best part of webtools are editors – it is great
xml,jsp,html with outline, preview,jsp 2.0, validation,formating etc
Database explorer is bad and very slow

If You integrate editors in MyEclipse then MyEclipse will be great (now is great, too)

Please, don’t change exitsing plugins like debug, debug.ui, gef etc
I don’t underastand reason for change debug plugins – debug in webtools with tomcat work great with existing debug

regards

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